Battleship Condorcet

The battleship Condorcet belonged to the Danton class and meant a clear technological leap out of the Liberté class, which served as the basis for the new French battleships.

 

Launch and design:

Since the beginning of the 90s of the 19th century, France has begun to significantly expand its navy and has demanded, ordered and for the most part already in service a large number of battleships.

The growth of the navy of the German Empire and also the fleet construction programme of Great Britain at the beginning of the 20th century led to a commission of the French Navy Ministry beginning to revise the French construction programme and adapt it to the new conditions. Reports from the Russo-Japanese War were also consulted and evaluated for the investigation. The commission came to the conclusion that the defeat of the Russian Maine was caused by many hits in the superstructures of the ships by the middle artillery of the Japanese sailors, less by hits of the main guns. The high speed of the Japanese ships also played a role in their victory.

With this result a revision of the battleships of the Liberté class was suggested, which should take over the strengths of the Japanese warships. Thus it was decided that the middle artillery should no longer consist of 194 mm guns, but of 240 mm guns, since these had a stronger penetration power with a larger range. However, the point of higher speed demanded by the French Navy had to be discarded when planning the new ship class, since the Ministry of Finance set strict limits on the financial means, which meant that the new ships could only have a maximum displacement of 18.000 tons. In order to maintain this limit and still achieve a higher speed, savings would have had to be made on the armour, which was ultimately preferred by the Navy.

In March 1906, the first drafts of the new Danton class were presented, but they hardly met with agreement. Changes to the armament were demanded and additional 305 mm main guns were required, which would have increased the weight considerably. The French parliament, on the other hand, was less interested in the armament than in the propulsion of the new ships. The battleship Dreadnought, which is already under construction in Great Britain, had a much stronger armament and a propulsion system with Parsons steam turbines. Parliament feared that the installation of triple expansion steam engines would lead to a technological decline and that it would not be able to connect to Great Britain or the German Empire. In May 1906, designers and technicians were sent to the Parson factories, weapon factories and shipyards in Great Britain to inform themselves about the technical possibilities. The result was that the turbines produced more power and required less space and were therefore superior to triple expansion steam engines.

Until 3 June 1908, further changes, discussions and debates were held on the final equipment of the warships, with the type ship already under construction. Finally the navy, the commission and the parliament agreed to equip all 6 ships of the class with turbines.

The result was the Danton class with a length of 146,6 metres, a width of 25,8 metres and a displacement of a maximum of 19.736 tons, whereby initially only 18.318 tons were aimed at, but new main guns significantly increased the weight during construction.

During arming, 4 x 305 mm Modèle 1906 guns were finally mounted in a twin turret at the front and rear of the ship. The middle artillery consisted of 12 x 240 mm guns, each housed in three twin turrets on both sides of the ship. Furthermore 16 x 75 mm, 10 x 47 mm guns and 2 x 450 mm torpedo tubes were used.

However, the armour had to be reduced compared to the Liberté, otherwise the weight of the ship would have been significantly higher. The belt thus had only 270 mm thick armour, the main gun 300 mm and the deck 40 to 70 mm.

For the first time, 4 Parsons steam turbines with 26 steam boilers and an output of 22.500 HP and a maximum speed of 19 knots served as propulsion.

The Condorcet was then launched on 20 April 1909 and put into service on 25 July 1911.

 

 

Drawing of the Danton Class

 

Drawing of the Danton Class

 

View on the 240 mm guns of the Condorcet

 

View on the 240 mm guns of the Condorcet

 

 

 

History of the Condorcet:

After the commissioning and the test runs the Condorcet was assigned together with the already finished sister ships to the 1st squadron of the Mediterranean fleet. Manoeuvres and exercises were carried out with this squadron from April 1912.

In 1913 the 1st squadron was strengthened with the battleships Courbet and Jean Bart and carried out round trips to the ports in the Mediterranean as well as exercises and manoeuvres throughout the year.

Until the middle of 1914 the annual manoeuvres in the Mediterranean were carried out again, until the diplomatic situation after the assassination of the Austro-Hungarian heir to the throne Archduke Franz Ferdinand in Serbia became more and more acute and the French warships were instructed to remain close to their home ports and to be put on alert.

 

 

Battleship Condorcet

 

 

 

Use in war:

When World War I broke out in Europe, the Condorcet, together with the sister ship Vergniaud and the battleship Courbet in the Mediterranean Sea, was assigned to hunt the two German ships Goeben and Breslau near the Balearic Islands. On August 9, the ships were ordered to the vicinity of Sicily, as the German ships could not be found and an eruption into the western Mediterranean was to be prevented.

When it became apparent that the two German ships were subordinated to the Ottoman Empire, the French battleships were ordered to the Adriatic coast to force the Austrian-Hungarian navy to leave the port and thus to engage in battle. However, since the ships did not leave the ports, the French ships limited themselves to firing at positions and fortifications along the coast. The battleship Jean Bart was attacked on 21 December by the Austro-Hungarian submarine U-12 and severely damaged. As a result, the battleships were withdrawn after it was recognized that they were still insufficiently protected against submarine attacks. The Condorcet then took over the blockade of the Strait of Otranto.

Since January 1916 French warships as well as British warships took part in the harassment of the Greek monarchy not to enter the war at the side of the German Empire and Austria-Hungary. In August preparations began for a coup d'état, which was to take place in December. The Condorcet joined the group of ships in the port of Athens at the end of November to bring the group of putschists ashore on December 1. However, the group was quickly pushed back by Greek soldiers and armed civilians. The Allied warships then blocked the Greek ports. The Condorcet was withdrawn shortly afterwards from this task and moved to Mudros to prevent the battle cruiser Goeben, which now sailed under the flag of the Ottoman Empire, from breaking out and entering the Mediterranean. With a break between September 1917 and May 1918, the Condorcet took over surveillance until the end of the war.

 

 

 

Post-war deployment:

From 6 December 1918 to 2 March 1919, the Condorcet took over the French part of the Allied fleet in Fiume, which monitored the post-war order in Yugoslavia. When the task was completed, the ship was transferred to the Atlantic Fleet.

In the years 1923 and 1924 both the Condorcet and some of the sister ships were modernized. In particular the underwater protection was improved and some of the older 75 mm guns were dismantled. After the conversions, both the Condorcet and the sister ships Diderot and Voltaire were assigned to the training department in Toulon. The Condorcet was assigned for the training on torpedoes and the electronics on board of a warship, for this a torpedo tube was attached specially for the training. This use took place up to the year 1931, whereby in the time up to then the largest part of the armament was developed in order to be able to use the ship gradually as living ship.

By 1939, the propellers had also been dismantled, so that the ship was no longer able to drive itself.

 

 

 

Use in the Second World War:

On 24 September 1940, during the Battle of Dakar, an explosion occurred on the Richelieu battleship during the Battle of Dakar. The Condorcet was towed from Toulon to sea in April 1941 to carry out several experiments with the propellants. The shots were fired by remote control, as a result it turned out that the used propellants worked without problems.

In July 1941, the ship was equipped with the latest radios and signalling equipment to train new communication members.

After the German Wehrmacht started with the occupation of Vichy France, the Condorcet fell unharmed into their hands. In contrast to the other French warships, the battleship was not sunk itself, as there were still trainees on board. However, as the ship was not ready to sail, some of the 240 mm guns were removed and used to defend the Gironde estuary in the Bay of Biscay. The Condorcet itself served the Wehrmacht as a barrackship.

 

 

 

Whereabouts:

The Condorcet was severely damaged during an Allied bombing raid in August 1944. When the Wehrmacht withdrew from the area, the ship was sunk so that the Allies could no longer use it.

In September 1945 the wreck was salvaged, sold on December 14 and scrapped until 1949.

 

 

 

Ship data:

Name:  

Condorcet

Country:  

France

Type of ship:  

Battleship

Classe:  

Danton-Classe

Building yard:  

Ateliers et Chantiers de la Loire

Building costs:  

unknown

Launching:  

April 20th, 1909

Commissioning:  

July 25th, 1911

Whereabouts:  

Sunk by the Wehrmacht in August 1944, salvaged in September 1945, sold in December and scrapped by 1949

Length:  

146,6 meters

Width:  

25,8 meters

Draft:  

Max. 9,2 meters

Displacement:  

Max. 19.763 tons

Crew:  

681 men

Drive:  

26 Steam boiler

4 Parsons steam turbines

Power:  

22.500 HP (16.800 kW)

Maximum speed:  

19,2 knots (35,6 kilometers per hour)

 

Arming:

 

4 × 305 mm guns

12 × 240 mm guns

16 × 75 mm guns

10 × 47 mm guns

2 × 450 mm torpedo tubes

Armour:  

Belt: 270 mm
Deck: 45 to 70 mm
Main guns: 300 mm
Gun turrets: 188 to 225 mm
Command bridge: 300 mm

 

 

 

 

 

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