Armored cruiser Edgar Quinet

The armoured cruiser Edgar Quinet belonged to the ship class of the same name, which consisted of 2 ships and was one of the last armoured cruisers built in France.

 

Launch and design:

Already with the construction of the Ernest Renan armored cruiser, a significant increase in firepower in the armored cruiser sector was aimed at. The two ships of the Edgar Quinet class, however, should exceed this once again.

Special emphasis was placed on a uniform main armament with a total of 14 x 194 mm guns, whereby basically only the 164 mm guns of the predecessor model were replaced by guns with a larger caliber. The 47 mm guns, which were balanced with a higher number of 20 x 65 mm guns, were also omitted. The ships of the Edgar Quinet class were thus the most powerful armoured cruisers of the French Navy.

The ships were powered by three 4-cylinder triple expansion engines driven by 40 Belleville coal boilers in the Edgar Quinet and 42 Niclausse boilers in the Waldeck-Rousseau. The output amounted to 36.000 hp, which meant that a maximum speed of 23 knots could be achieved. In order to better protect the propulsion system against damage, the triple expansion motors were each housed in a separate protected area, and the boilers were installed in pairs in watertight compartments.

The armor on the ship's belt was 150 mm, which was reduced to 70 mm at the front and 40 mm at the rear. The ships had 2 armoured decks, the lower one 65 mm thick and the upper one 30 mm thick. The armor of the two twin turrets remained at 200 mm, the casemates at 194 mm only slightly less.

The type ship was named after the French historian and intellectual Edgar Quinet (1803 - 1875).

The launch of the Edgar Quinet then took place on 21 September 1907, the commissioning in January 1911.

 

 

Edgar Quinet, namesake of the ship

 

Launch of the armoured cruiser Edgar Quinet

 

Armored cruiser Edgar Quinet

 

 

 

History of Edgar Quinet:

After the test runs and the commissioning the Edgar Quinet was the most powerful armoured cruiser France had built until then. However, the battle cruiser HMS Invincible had already been put into service in Great Britain 2 years before and thus made the class of the armoured cruiser superfluous.

In April 1912 the Edgar Quinet was combined with the sister ship Waldeck-Rousseau and the armoured cruiser Ernest Renan in the 1st Light Squadron. With this several manoeuvres and exercises in the Mediterranean were accomplished afterwards.

In the year 1913 the Edgar Quinet participated in the international squadron in the Mediterranean, consisting of ships from France, Great Britain, Italy, Austria-Hungary and the German Empire. This was intended to demonstrate military power during the Balkan wars and exert pressure on the countries involved. Among other things, the Montenegrin coast was blocked so that Serbian troops would not receive any further supplies.

 

 

Drawing of the armored cruiser Edgar Quinet

 

 

 

Use in war:

After the outbreak of the First World War the armoured cruisers of the 1st Light Division were used to find and sink the German ships Goeben and Breslau in the Mediterranean Sea. With further 12 destroyers the harbour in Philippeville should serve for this, this was bombarded however one day before the arrival of the ships by the German ships and was partly destroyed.

Since a breakout of the German ships into the Atlantic was feared, the French ships were transferred afterwards into the western Mediterranean to block the way. When it became apparent that the German ships would not sail into the Atlantic, but into the Ottoman Constantinople, the ships were transferred to the coast of Austria-Hungary.

During the blockade of the ports only the Austrian ship Zenta could be sunk, the rest of the fleet remained in the ports. At the end of 1914, as the threat from submarines increased, the ships were withdrawn to the southern Mediterranean.

On 8 January 1916 the Edgar Quinet, together with the ships Ernest Renan, Waldeck-Rousseau and Jules Ferry, took part in the occupation of the Greek island of Corfu. For this purpose, French mountain troops were brought ashore in the night from 10 to 11 January. Although the Greek officials protested against the occupation, they did not offer any resistance.

Until the end of the war, the Edgar Quinet only provided security.

 

 

 

Post-war deployment:

After the war, Edgar Quinet remained in the eastern Mediterranean to observe the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the subsequent Greek-Turkish war. The ship was also used to take survivors of the great fire of Smyrna in 1922 and bring them to safety.

From 1925 to 1927 the ship was extensively rebuilt to be used as a training ship. A following journey led it among other things also to the United States of America, where it visited San Diego in California in 1928.

In 1929 a further reconstruction was carried out, so that now devices were installed which made it possible to transport and take up seaplanes. After the conversion it was used for cadets of the École Navale.

 

 

The armoured cruiser Edgar Quinet 1928 in San Diego, California

 

 

 

Whereabouts:

During a training trip in the Mediterranean Sea, the Edgar Quinet ran aground off the coast of Algeria west of Oran on 4 January 1930 and got stuck. Since the ship could no longer be towed from the ground and the damage was too great, it was abandoned and the crew evacuated. On 9 January it finally sank.

 

 

 

Ship data:

Name:  

Edgar Quinet

Country:  

France

Type of ship:  

Armored cruiser

Classe:  

Edgar Quinet-Classe

Building yard:  

Arsenal de Lorient

Building costs:  

unknown

Launching:  

September 21st, 1907

Commissioning:  

January 1911

Whereabouts:  

Run aground on January 4, 1930, sank on January 9

Length:  

158,9 metres

Width:  

21,51 metres

Draft:  

Maximum 8,41 metres

Displacement:  

Maximum 13.847 tons

Crew:  

859 - 892 men

 

Drive:

 

three 4-cylinder triple expansion engines

40 Belleville coal boilers

Power:  

36.000 HP (27.000 kW)

Maximum speed:  

23 knots (43 kilometres per hour)

 

Arming:

 

14 × 194 mm guns

20 × 65 mm guns

2 × 450 mm torpedo tubes

Armour:  

Belt: 150 mm
Gun turrets: 200 mm
Casemates: 194 mm
Command tower: 203 mm
Deck: 30 - 65 mm

 

 

 

 

 

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